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Title: Membership Classifications
Post by: Michael on January 24, 2007, 10:24:30 pm
Folks;

Had a couple of questions on this so I thought I would expand..............

Those in the "trades" get the title of "Professional Member". 

The classification under that is based on post counts.  "Newbie" was the software default for the first tier but has come under some scrutiny so I changed it to the relatively harmless "Tier 1".  No disrespect was intended at all and I apologize if anyone was offended.

I can make the titles anything I want.  The default post counts are 0, 50, 100, 250

So...........here is what it is now (yawn).  Nice and safe.

Tier I
Tier II
Tier III
Tier IV

Here is my personal vote (hanging this out there so you can blast it out of the park).  I KNOW you can do better.

Maegashira 
Komusubi 
Sekiwake 
Ozeki

There is a lot of creativity here on the boards, so here is my challenge.   Can anyone come up with a four tier progression based on post count that does not have the term "member" in it (cuz it gets confusing when coupled with "Professional Member")?

I will let this run a week and see what we get.

If I get overwhelmed with responses, I will put it to a poll.

Michael
Title: Re: Membership Classifications
Post by: Lee on January 25, 2007, 07:01:40 pm
Plum, Bamboo, Pine, Orchid?
Title: Re: Membership Classifications
Post by: george in the uk on January 27, 2007, 10:09:09 am
Hi,
How about dynasties, from now to earlier times,
Showa =0
Taisho =50
Meiji    =100
Edo     =200 
Momoyama =500
George.
Title: Re: Membership Classifications
Post by: Michael on January 27, 2007, 11:26:59 am
Taking George's wonderful idea and incorporating a bit more old school.  Deeper down the rabbit hole.

Edo
Muromachi
Kamakura
Heien
Title: Re: Membership Classifications
Post by: edzard on January 27, 2007, 12:09:16 pm
-- sounds like fun, but why?
       edzard
Title: Re: Membership Classifications
Post by: Michael on January 27, 2007, 12:32:31 pm
Quote from: edzard on January 27, 2007, 12:09:16 pm
-- sounds like fun, but why?
       edzard


You answered your own question.  Just having a spot of fun.   :)

What say you, Edzard san?  Watchagot?
Title: Re: Membership Classifications
Post by: edzard on January 27, 2007, 11:44:05 pm
I gots....

fuzei 0-50
fuego 50->
el Nino 100 ->
Taiphun 200 ->
V 3 (cubed). .... ... +++ 500 ->

this keeps to Georges thought provoking philosophy. This way he/she who speaks the least, yet alludes the most, has the freshest breath...  as I notice that the Edo was a period of redundancy, Momoyama a tail-end of ostentatious over abundance... and the Showa a period of silent demonstrative uncertainty,..... which is quite nicely oblique for a subtext system..

whereas Mikes selection of historic periods may show more sensitivity to actual acquisition of information gain or transmission...
but why rank anything?
shrug,.. I always liked silver stars better than gold stars in grade school, which -- considering I liked the color better for ingrained ethical reasons, meant that the real challenge was, how not to get a gold star, --- how many wrong answers will it take to get a silver one, ... and not a bronze and not the dreaded gold one.

not everyone has the same objectives if objectives need be measured... getting a gold star was easy, but the real challenge was figuring out how to throw the test so as not to get caught - which of course was strapable... but at least that was interesting from a choice of rat tail, beaver tail, or conventional ribbed leather or flat, stroped n' waxed. (btw. the beaver tail hurt the most --)(yah,.. I know, more than you needed to know, I'll try to keep responses at the fresh mountain breeze category..)
Title: Re: Membership Classifications
Post by: edzard on January 29, 2007, 12:58:23 pm
--- of course if V3 : verdant verbal verbosity does not suit anyone..
then may I suggest 'kaze' and if the responses become too ethereally windy then 'kami'kaze can always be adopted to recognise the transcendence of all previous volumes.....
                           ;D
                                    edzard, who is still wondering what the tiers are for and how they can be useful
Title: Re: Membership Classifications
Post by: Jack on January 30, 2007, 10:33:05 pm
Hmm ... I tend to agree with Edzard. To me, the tiers only sets up an artifical social caste system. It would most definitely have made Mohandas G chafe in his fundoshi... :-\

Mike, If you do decide to keep it - or any variation of it, perhaps consider allowing posters to  switch it off using their User preferences?.. Then everybody will be happy ...I would gladly donate my tier to anyone who desires it. I'm cool with being tierless..

Recently, I was on a forum where not only could one acquire gold stars and other flashing pixels after one's name -- but one could also distribute 'reputation' points, and 'demerit' points at will. Can you imagine the havoc it caused! :)

Later, after much accusations and hand-wringing, admin decided to let people choose to switch off their 'levels' and 'reps'... of course the ones with 5 trillon posts balked at this development, having to give up their quivers of shiny gold stars, buttons and doo-dads ( sigh.. these people who weren't shown affection in their formative years)

But then, what came was even worse! - The mods decided that everyone could view WHO gave them those 'anonymous' demerit points. It became a circus  :D




Title: Re: Membership Classifications
Post by: Michael on February 01, 2007, 12:40:46 am
hmmmm, demerit points ***wringing hands****

The classifications were based on post counts nothing more, nothing less.  So, in all fairness, everyone is a "niwashi" until they post 8,545,823 more times and then they become " crazy takoyaki (wo)man".

I think that is fair.


Michael 
Title: Re: Membership Classifications
Post by: Jack on February 01, 2007, 12:56:19 am
Cool!  -- good onya Michael  :)
Title: Re: Membership Classifications
Post by: phobbs on February 01, 2007, 08:00:50 am
Just wondering..

What is niwashi?
Title: Membership Classifications
Post by: Strever on February 01, 2007, 11:45:59 am
not sure if this is what Mike was thinking of ?
but a quick google gives up this definition at http://www.e-e.co.nz/niwashi.htm (http://www.e-e.co.nz/niwashi.htm)
QuoteUnlike western garden hand-tools the Niwashi uses an angled blade that cuts into the soil as you pull it towards yourself. A more comfortable and nature action. The sharp blade makes light work of breaking up compacted garden beds, removing stubborn weeds and turning over soil for planting.


Title: Re: Membership Classifications
Post by: Lee on February 01, 2007, 12:51:45 pm
Niwashi is actually just a word that means "gardener."  Therefore, the tool in the link is called something like "The Gardener."
Title: Re: Membership Classifications
Post by: Michael on February 01, 2007, 02:01:38 pm
Quote from: Lee on February 01, 2007, 12:51:45 pm
Niwashi is actually just a word that means "gardener."  Therefore, the tool in the link is called something like "The Gardener."


Thank you for the assist, Lee.  Just keeping it simple.
Title: Re: Membership Classifications
Post by: don on February 01, 2007, 07:42:13 pm
Michael, in your current system, I would like to be placed in the middle.  I want to ask questions, but believe I have some good information/opinions to contribute.   However, my preference is an equal identity with everyone else that has something to say or ask about Japanese gardening ways/styles.  Less intimidating and opens doors for all levels of participation.  And thanks for your continuing consideration of everyone's input.
Title: Re: Membership Classifications
Post by: Michael on February 01, 2007, 08:12:05 pm
Don;

I just hit you with a PM.  Check your messages.

For everyone else, regardless of what it says under your name, post and answer freely where ever and when ever you feel comfortable doing so.  "Da rulez" and "titles" were not intended to stifle communication, just refine it.


Michael
Title: Re: Membership Classifications
Post by: phobbs on February 01, 2007, 09:08:05 pm
Thanks for the explanation.  At this point, my Japanese is limited to martial arts terms, which is a fairly small vocabulary.
Title: Re: Membership Classifications
Post by: don on February 01, 2007, 10:06:13 pm
Very cool, Michael.  You are appreciated!